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(Thanks to John Boland)
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(Published
December 2011)
A
Christmas message from Tom Farrell, IVVCC President
Dear Fellow Motoring Enthusiasts,
I’m writing to thank you for all your support during 2011 and to
give you some insight into the level of work being performed by your
club.
We went on a membership drive from May onwards and managed to sign
up some 124 new members and we have also introduced a new range of
IVVCC regalia, which members are happy to buy and be seen wearing!
The IVVCC Forum is up and running thanks to webmaster John Larkin’s
hard work as is the ease of paying for entry to events/membership on
line. The IVVCC is on Face Book and Twitter thanks to John and Denis
O’Donovan.
The 2011 IVVCC International Gordon Bennett Rally was an
outstanding success with cars coming from as far away as Australia.
Next year we will have 12 Rolls Royce Silver Ghosts attending from
Australia, and if you’ve never been to it, I would encourage you to
come along to this most enjoyable event. The Gordon Bennett
Committee work hard to make it a success and my thanks to Chairman
Denis Dowdall, Secretaries, Jeanne and John Wilkinson, Clerk of the
Course, Ian McCulloch and the Committee and Marshals for their
unstinting hard work on the Club’s behalf.
Affiliated Clubs Secretary, Shane Houlihan and Club PRO, John
Boland, have been visiting Affiliated Clubs around the country and
giving talks to fellow enthusiasts. Their efforts have been praised
by those that have been visited and many more are planned for the
New Year. The IVVCC is at present in negotiations with various
insurance companies with the intention of providing a more
accessible Public Liability insurance for our Affiliated Members,
which for many is a crippling expense. John Boland has also been
writing monthly news articles for the Irish Vintage Scene, sharing
the events of the IVVCC with other enthusiasts.

Tom
on the London to Brighton Run driving club member Pat Hemphills'
1903 Curved Dash Oldsmobile.
I had the pleasure of driving in this year's London to Brighton
Veteran Car Run which is the longest running motoring event in the
world, established in 1896. It caters for all motor vehicles
manufactured up until the end of Dec 1904 and attracts some 500
vehicles from around the world. Members of the IVVCC have attended
this event since the early sixties and this year the organisers
honored our club with its own designated parking area in Brighton.
There were 17 Irish entries; most if not all were IVVCC Members.
Following discussions with sporting enthusiasts and a subsequent
board meeting, it was decided to reintroduce the Sports Section and
there will be new exciting events next year. There are also plans to
run an event for all vehicles from 1930 to perhaps 1950/55. We hope
also to introduce an event for antique/veteran vehicles and perhaps
another vintage event and a dedicated classic event. While all this
is aspirational, it can happen with your help. If you would like to
be involved, please let us know.
The Christmas Dinner Dance was an outstanding success. It was held
in the Red Cow Conference Centre, which allowed us to have 7 of our
member’s cars on display. There were ample prizes, free wine, great
food, fabulous music and photos taken of everyone in front of Shane
Houlihan’s 1939 Jaguar SS 100. We would like this to become an
annual event and tables have already been booked for next year’s
event! The Xmas quiz, with quizmaster Robin McCullough, was a free
event, with the club providing free tea/coffee/biscuits and sweets.
There were many prizes and a free raffle.

Tom and Trish Farrell at the Christmas Dinner Dance
Membership Secretary Jean Morton and Club Vice President and
Secretary, Bernadette Wyer are working on the renewals due in
January and we would appreciate your help by renewing your
membership as soon as you can. We hope to have a new membership card
which will contain (among other info) a QR, or quick response logo,
which if you’re lucky enough to have a smart phone, you can scan and
you will go straight to the IVVCC website. These are all tools to
put our club ‘out there’. We would like to be the first organisation
people will come to in their search for anything to do with old
motor preservation.
We hope to make our events as cost effective as possible and the
New Year's Run will be an inexpensive affair (check out ivvcc.ie/events),
as will the St Valentine's Day Run. The Spring Rally will be an over
night event and you will have the option to attend the entire run or
either day. It will be out of Dublin and involve some of our
Affiliated Clubs and all are invited to participate.
The Events Committee work hard to provide interesting routes and
runs for the benefit of the Club, please show your support by
attending these events if you can. After all it would not be a
success if not supported by the members. The A team are another
integral part of our events, these are the men and woman who work
with the events committee to ensure the setting up and smooth
running of so many events and deserve our thanks for all their help.
Peadar Ward has just returned from Washington where he represented
the IVVCC and our affiliated clubs at the FIVA world congress. With
so many restrictions being imposed on historic motoring throughout
Europe, it is now more important than ever that we have a voice at
the table to prevent our hobby being legislated off the road and
Peadar has certainly lobbied well on our behalf.
There are many exciting events planned for our 50th Anniversary in
2013 and plans are at an advanced stage and it won’t be long about
coming around. Keep an eye on the IVVCC Journal and website (ivvcc.ie)
for details.
I would like to record my thanks to the board and various committees
for their hard work and to you the members for your support. Finally
may I wish you and your loved ones a Happy Christmas and a Peaceful
and Good New Year.
Tom

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IVVCC Club News
– December 2011
Recent Events

Annual
Christmas Dinner Dance: Friday November 18th
saw members travel from as far and near to attend the Club's Annual
Dinner Dance which was held for the first time in the Red Cow Moran
Hotel. This new venue proved to be an excellent location as it
allowed a sample of the vast range of cars in the club to be
displayed amongst the diners. We were very honoured to have seven
great cars in the hall on the night which comprised a 1899 Sperry
electric car and a 1904 Speedwell – both of which had just returned
from the London to Brighton, a one owner early sixties Mini Cooper,
a Wolseley 1500 and we were particularly honoured to have the late
Chris Furlong's 1959 Maserati. To finish the display we had a 1933
Jaguar SS100 and the world famous IONA Special belonging to Ed
Cassidy who is a member of the recently reformed Sports Section
which had a great attendance of members on the night. Among the
affiliated clubs represented we had members of the Tipperary Light
Car & Motor Cycle Club, The Irish Jaguar and Daimler Club, Clonmel
Vintage & Classic Car Club, The Veteran Car Club (Irish Section) and
over twenty members of the Blessington club joined in our
festivities!

After being
welcomed at the door on arrival by the club's president Tom Farrell,
guests then sat down to a wonderful dinner, and just as the speeches
ended the great man himself appeared – Santa Claus driving Reg
Plunkett's Sperry electric car with the entertainer for the evening,
crooner Sean Boland, on board! After negotiating his way to the
stage, Santa then gave a number of selection boxes to guests before
announcing in true Late Late Show type tradition – that there
was one for everybody in the audience! This was met with great
approval by all and the silence of Sperry caught a lot of people off
guard as they didn’t expect to see a car driving through the tables!
A great night
was had by all and the sight of people dancing the night away to a
back drop of cars from the dawn of motoring up to the seventies will
live in everybody’s memory for a long time to come. The Club would
like to thank everybody who made this night into such a wonderful
occasion and we look forward to seeing even more people at next
year's event.
London to
Brighton Run 2011: Fifteen cars from Ireland rolled over
the start line on a very dry and mild November morning for this the
longest running car event in the world. This is truly a unique event
as just under 500 pre-1905 cars set off from Hyde Park for the sixty
mile route to Brighton and what a spectacle they are – to see these
cars arriving at the start in pitch darkness, coming from every
lane, road and street was like witnessing London one hundred years
ago! Then just as dawn was breaking, the first car set off on this
wonderful trip which sees the cars passing Buckingham Palace, down
past Big Ben and over Westminster Bridge before making their way
through the suburbs towards the official coffee break in Crawley. Of
the fifteen Irish starters, twelve made it to the finish line at
Madeira Drive on the Brighton seafront where this year the RAC had
given the IVVCC a special reserved Irish zone for our cars – this
proved to be a wonderful opportunity for us to promote the old car
movement in Ireland and we spent a large part of the day handing out
leaflets and talking to people from as far as Australia about
motoring at home. We feel that we should see an increase in the
number of early cars coming to Ireland for the Gordon Bennett and
indeed the 2013 FIVA World rally which is in advanced planning as we
speak.
Great credit is
due to all the Irish participants who promote the Irish scene on
this worldwide stage by making this annual pilgrimage to England and
the IVVCC would like to thank them for their dedication in
preserving our motoring history.
Affiliated Club
Visit: On
the first Friday in December, board members Shane Houlihan
(affiliated clubs secretary) and John Boland (club pro) were invited
by the Munster Vintage Motorcycle and Car Club Ltd to give a
presentation on the IVVCC and some of the international rallies that
they have attended. This was very well received by the members who
took a particular interest in the Mille Miglia which the two lads
completed in 2010 and the Munster club could not have made Shane and
John more welcome on the night. One of the items discussed on the
night is that we have on our website an Affiliated Clubs News
section
which we will post any news, views or event
reports and we encourage all of our affiliated clubs to submit
information for inclusion – this can be sent to
pro@ivvcc.ie
FIVA:
Peadar Ward has just returned from Washington where he attended the
FIVA world congress on behalf of the IVVCC and our affiliated clubs.
It is now more important than ever that we are represented as with
so many changes being made throughout Europe in regards to historic
motoring that we need to have a voice in Europe. The event took
place over a number of days of very intensive discussion about
preventing our hobby being legislated off the road. A report for our
affiliated clubs is now being prepared and we will give updates in
future club news items.
Club
President Tom Farrell: On behalf of the Irish Veteran and
Vintage Car Club, Tom has asked that the clubs best wishes be
extended to all motoring enthusiasts throughout Ireland and indeed
worldwide that you may have a Peaceful Christmas and many, many
miles of happy motoring in the new year – we look forward to seeing
you all at great events in 2012 and if there is anything you feel
that the club should be doing but isn’t, please let us know. You
will find details of all club contacts here


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IVVCC Club
News – November 2011
Recent Events:
Just as surely
as the clock goes back to signify the onset of winter, the annual
IVVCC Auto jumble in Toughers draws our motoring season
to a close for another year. Now celebrating its twenty seventh
year, the autojumble under the guidance of Mick and Maura Jones
has grown into the premier event of its type in Ireland. With an
attendance of 26 stalls with no fewer than five being from Northern
Ireland and the U.K, this event has taken on a truly International
flavour and the range of items on sale is amazingly varied – from
headlights to tail lights and every conceivable part in between and
that’s not mentioning the range of books, models and the vast
selection of bric a brac to be unearthed!
Toughers
really lends itself to the event with the spacious area and
availability of refreshments being one of the reasons this much
enjoyed outing has become such a social occasion – it’s great to see
the number of people who after having a good rummage, then sit down
to discuss their wonderful discoveries with friends from all over
the country. It’s also great to see how many new friendships are
formed as haggling goes on for that elusive piece and it’s this air
of friendliness that brings so many exhibitors back year after year
– supporters like John and Esther Fox who travel down from
Newry on a regular basis to join up with local members such as
Paul Noctor and Myles O’Reilly. Our own club stand was in
attendance so ably manned by Michael Duff who’s main seller
of the day were Golf Umbrellas – these represent super value at the
moment as we have managed to secure a better price from our
suppliers and are currently selling at an incredible €20 – but only
while current stocks last – Don’t miss out! We were also delighted
to have Thomas Heavey and crew in attendance with the
Irish Vintage Scene stand and hope he was well supported by all
there.
The club would like to congratulate the Jones’s for
all their hard work which, as ever was reflected in the amazing
quality of this event and all credit must be paid to everybody who
put in such an effort – from Tommy Tougher who provided the
hall to all the exhibitors and a special mention must go to Conor
Noctor who helped man the door on the day – it’s wonderful to
see such young people getting involved as these are the future
custodians of our hobby and must be encouraged at every possible
opportunity!
Sports Section:
At the board meeting on October 18th it was decided to
reinstate the Sports section back into the club – this is a
wonderful development as it’s opens the club back up to these pre
1955 racing cars and their owners and we look forward to seeing them
perform at a number of events next year under the IVVCC flag. It
will also stir the interest of a large number of younger people who
will hopefully become enthusiasts.
London to Brighton Run 2011:
Sixteen cars
were entered from Ireland for this the longest running car event in
the world which had Jutta Benz performing a ceremonial start
just before the official sunrise start of 07.02, Jutta drove a
replica of the 1886 Benz Patent-Motorwagen created by her
great grandfather Carl Benz, which heralded the invention of
the motor car 125 years ago. As a replica, the car is not eligible
to participate in the entire Run and so Jutta drove to south of
Westminster Bridge where the car was loaded and transported to north
of Madeira Drive where she drove the last mile to the finish line.
(A full report will follow.)
Gordon Bennett International Rally:
Next year’s
Gordon Bennett to be held on 8th-10th of June
has truly earned it’s ‘International’ status as we have just
received an advance entry from a number of Rolls Royce enthusiasts –
these drivers and their cars are organising a motoring tour of
Ireland centred on our event – we’ve been honoured to have two
Australian Rolls Royce’s on the rally previously but next year will
break the record – we are going to have twelve of RR’s finest
Silver Ghosts which will be getting shipped all the way from Oz!!
These will compliment the amazing selection of other overseas
competitors that travel to the event every year.
Christmas Gifts:
Don’t
forget the club shop now carries a wide selection of club apparel
from Polo Shirts to Umbrellas to Jackets – something for everybody.
We also have gift vouchers available for your 2012 membership so now
is the time to drop the hint and get a present that you really want
this Christmas! Details available from pro@ivvcc.ie
IVVCC
Journal: The
latest issue of the IVVCC Journal has been posted out to our members
and as usual is packed full of interesting features, event reports
and cars for sale amongst loads of other interesting items. The
cover of this issue celebrates the 50th anniversary of
one of the greatest cats of them all – The ‘E’ Type and features
Gerry Larkin’s Irish registered car which was the 9th
‘E’ Type onto our shores – to finish on another ‘International’
note, this Journal will grace coffee tables as far away as the UK,
France, America and even Barbados, where we have members.
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IVVCC Club News – October 2011
by John Boland
Recent Events:
Sunday 2nd October and
after a week of unseasonably warm weather, our members were
subjected to a day of torrential rain for our Autumn Run, but never
deterred, out of 36 cars entered, only a few withdrew. Starting in
the Stepaside Golf Centre where club member and great supporter Rosa
Roe laid on some very welcome hot beverages and snacks, 75 members
and their friends departed on a great route chosen by event
organiser Barry Burke, taking in Stepaside, Rathfarnham, Saggart and
Kilteel before finishing in D’Arcy McGee’s in the Spawell complex.
Here a wonderful lunch organised by manager Pat Buckley was followed
by the prize giving with the quiz supplying the closest competition
– Peter Ging and Kevin Herron both identifying 19 of
the 20 car logos shown – Marcos and Bristol being the stumbling
blocks respectively. The cars were divided into three classes with
Kevin Halloran in his 1927 Austin 12/4 Clifton tourer taking
the Leslie Thorne Presidents Cup, Donal Begley in his Bentley
Mk VI taking the Murtagh Trophy and lastly taking the Oliver
Cosgrave Deerpark trophy was Jim Fitzpatrick in his Morris
Minor. The high spirits of all attending are again proof that come
hail, rain or sunshine it’s impossible to beat a good days motoring
on a club run!
One of the most actively
supported groups in the club is the ARM – Active Retired Members
section and on the last Thursday of September a group of 75 met up
for a trip to Slane Castle. This is a very informal gathering where
members drive both their modern and old cars on an always
interesting outing. After a guided tour of the castle, everybody was
treated to a sampling of the recently launched and very palatable
‘Slane Castle Irish Whiskey’ which was found to be so good that
several bottles were purchased to keep any impending flu at bay!
Lunch and conversation then flowed in the Snail Box restaurant until
the late evening. Previous trips have taken place to the Tractor
museum in Cooley, The Fry museum in Malahide and the wax museum in
Dublin. The next outing is to Kilkenny city in November.
The bad weather of the first
weekend in October also took its toll on the ‘In the Mood’ swing
session organised by Age Action Ireland - The original plan was to
have an escort of 50s cars leading a charity walk down to Trinity
College for an afternoon tea dance. Unfortunately the walk had to be
cancelled, but the ‘Bugle Babes’ swing trio supplied wonderful
entertainment for all our members in the magnificent environs of
Trinity.

One of Ireland's most
recognisable television stars, Miriam O’Callaghan was the official starter at our affiliate
Triumph Classic Owners Club’s charity run Four Provinces in a
Classic. We were represented by our web master John Larkin who
completed the c1000km event without any hitches in his 1967 Lotus Elan. All
credit must go to event organiser Alan Quinn who dedicated
nine months of his life to make the event the success it was. A
total of just over €41,000 was raised for this wonderful
organisation the Children’s Sunshine Home/ Laura Lynne Foundation
who operate Ireland’s only children’s hospice.
FIVA
Matters: The Worldwide FIVA
General Assembly is being held from November 17th to 19th
and will be attended by our FIVA representative Peadar Ward. In
recent years, the work of FIVA has become essential in keeping our
historic motors on the road and as part of the clubs commitment to
our hobby, we are ensuring that Ireland’s voice will be heard at
this very important convention. A full report on the event will be
forwarded on Peadar’s return to all our affiliated clubs and will be
summarised in a future club news update.
London
to Brighton Run 2011: Only a few weeks
to go and everybody is making the final adjustments to their cars
for this historic event which will see Derek Wilson from Cork who is
a third generation enthusiast competing in his recently restored
1902 Bolide and club President Tom Farrell driving a Curved Dash
Oldsmobile – Our best wishes to all the IVVCC flag bearers taking
part and we look forward to seeing you in the specially reserved
Irish section at the finish.
Members Website Forum:
Our Forum is now up and fully
operational with lots of different topics being addressed by members
– if you haven’t accessed it yet – waste no more time and login at
www.ivvcc.ie/forum
The
Auto jumble: Don’t forget that
the date for this years auto jumble has been changed to Sunday 30th
October – this great event, so well organised by Mick Jones is the
ideal place to find that elusive piece and has also become the
perfect place for members to catch up on all that’s happening in the
historic motoring scene.
Christmas
Dinner Dance: The place to be on
Friday 18th November is the Pavilion in the Red Cow Moran
Hotel – The night will comprise a four course meal followed by some
great music in a Frank Sinatra / Rat Pack style. We are also
planning a number of surprises on the evening and are inviting both
members from the IVVCC and our affiliate clubs to attend. It really
will be a fun night and one that shouldn’t be missed – details on
ticket purchase can be found on the home page of our web site
www.ivvcc.ie.
Christmas
Gifts: Don’t forget the club
shop now carries a wide selection of club apparel from Polo Shirts
to Umbrellas to Jackets – something for everybody. We also have gift
vouchers available for your 2012 membership so now is the time to
drop the hint and get a present that you really want this Christmas!
Details available from pro@ivvcc.ie
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IVVCC
Club News – September 2011
by John Boland
Recent Events:
Our annual Powerscourt Picnic took place on
Sunday 21st of August and we had an entry of just under
one hundred and fifty cars which included a number of participants
from six of our affiliated clubs. The weather was kind on the day
and between the superb location and a Jazz band providing a perfect
backdrop for a picnic we had a great turn out of families.
We would especially like to thank the
Slazenger family for their support of this event over the years.
The club presented a large
number of awards on the day including amongst others, best pre and
post war tourers going to Thomas
O’Sullivan in his 1937 MG VA Tickford and Eddie Connally in his 1968
Mercedes Benz 280SL respectively. The Bill Pegum Trophy for the most
colorful/enthusiastic club member of the year – as chosen by the
President went to club treasurer Ray McElroy who works incredibly
hard behind the scenes for the club.

Frank Kelly and IVVCC
President Tom Farrell
We also had the club shop on
site which had a busy day between selling club merchandise and
signing up some more new members which has increased our membership
by over 80 since June. An unexpected visitor to the picnic was
acclaimed actor Frank Kelly best known for his work in Halls
Pictorial weekly, Father Ted and most recently Emmerdale, but not so
well known for one of his earlier rolls which was in the original ‘Italian
Job’ with Michael Caine! Frank and his wife Bairbre both
have a particular interest in DS Citroëns and they had several
stories to tell about their ownership of same including one where
they were towing a boat trailer down a country lane. Due to the
hydro pneumatic suspension on their Citroen
they were oblivious to just how rough the road was until launching
the craft they noticed that the supports on the trailer had punched
holes in the boat!
Courtmacsherry in County
Cork was the setting for the VCC Irish sections main event which had
a total of 29 entries (all pre 1918) of which no fewer than seven
came from overseas. The run took place over five days of gentle
driving which consisted of a number of interesting stops at local
tourist spots including a chocolate factory and a model village. The
event was thoroughly enjoyed by all IVVCC members in attendance
which included three of our overseas members Johnny Thomas in his
1903 Clement, Lawrie Smith and the president of the VCC Stewart
Skilbeck. Winner of the overall award was Keith Pearson in his 1913
KRIT and a special spirit of the event award went to Christopher
Berridge who tackled all the steep hills admirably in his little
single cylinder 1905 Rover. The club would like to congratulate
clerk of the course Derek Wilson for all his hard work and the warm
welcome extended to all our members.
Another event well attended
by our members was the 75th anniversary of the 1936
Limerick Grand Prix which not only attracted two Bugattis but also
the winning Supercharged MG from that year. The celebrations were
based in Pery square where our members were treated to a wonderful
exhibition of related material as well as the opportunity to drive
three laps of the original circuit which had a great turnout of
spectators. Club member John Wilkinson had a unique cargo on the day
– two brothers who had attended the Grand Prix as young boys and had
some great memories of the day which they shared with all in
attendance.
Club's Appreciation:
The A Team and the Events Committee
are two of the hardest working groups in they club, these are the
men and women who organise and then set up events so that members
simply only have to turn up and enjoy – On Tuesday 30th
August, they were invited to view Jim Bolands collection and have
some refreshments where President, Tom Farrell spoke of the hard
work performed by these members and thanked them on behalf of the
club for their commitment.
Members Website Forum:
Our Web master John Larkin has been
hard at work and the clubs new forum, where you can post questions
and request help from other members is now live – the forum is
available to fully paid up members of the IVVCC and our affiliated
clubs – it can be accessed at www.ivvcc.ie/forum
Upcoming
Events: The Clubs Autumn Run will take
place on Sunday 2nd October and entry forms can be found
here on the Events
page, also please note that the date for the IVVCC Autojumble has
been amended to 30th October. The club is also delighted
to announce the return of an annual end of year Dinner which will
take place on Friday night, November 18th in The Red Cow
Hotel at 8pm – Tickets will go on sale at the October first Monday
meeting –
Numbers are limited so make
sure you get yours as this promises to be a great night where we
will all have the chance to enjoy the company of friends old and
new.
London to Brighton Run
2011: Irish participation in this
historic event continues to grow with two of the latest accepted
entries being club members Andrew Bailey in his little 1904 Bebe
Peugeot and Mark & Olive Wilkinson in their 1903 Renault.
See
for previous monthly news articles.
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IVVCC
Club News – August 2011
by John Boland
Recent Events:
This is always such a busy time of year with so many great events
around the country and although the weather tried its best to upset
our day trip to Trim, our members turned out in good numbers to
support this well organised show with a range of 27 cars dating from
1913 to 1982.On Sunday morning two convoys departed from Dublin and
this proved to be a great success as no one would be left behind in
the event of a breakdown and indeed many members commented on the
fun aspect of travelling together. The club was honoured that its
members received 3 of the prizes on offer that day and we all look
forward to returning next year in larger numbers.
Among the many other events our
members took part in during the month was a vintage car show in
Clondalkin – not a venue that is normally associated with historic
motoring but in this case the local Chamber of Commerce pulled out
all the stops to celebrate their first vintage week. The quality of
the 28 cars in attendance ranged from no less than 3 Brighton cars,
2 Silver Ghosts, 2 pre war Bentleys and a 1932 Alfa 8C – a great
turn out which was well supported by members of both the IVVCC and
our great friends in the Blessington Car Club.
London to Brighton Run 2011:
Entries are now closing for
the historic London to Brighton run which will have over 500 pre
1905 cars competing from all over the globe with as many as possibly
20 Irish participants – this year the IVVCC has been granted a
unique honour insofar as the RAC have given us a special Irish zone
at the finish in Medeira Drive – this is in recognition of the
number of Irish cars which participate on this unique run every year
and our thanks go to the organisers for this wonderful honour which
will allow us to fly the IVVCC flag at one of the worlds greatest
events. This year the club is looking at organising a dinner in
London on Saturday night for our members and details will be posted
on the web site soon.
Among the many other events that our members will
be taking part in are the Veteran Car Club's Irish section rally in
Courtmacsherry, Co.Cork and the Limerick
Classic and Vintage Car Club event for pre 1940 sports cars to mark
the 75th anniversary of the 1936 Limerick Grand Prix. To the
organizers of these and all the other great events through out the
country we send our best wishes.
Social Media:
The IVVCC has just
got more social! Thanks to club member Denis O’Donovan who has taken
on the job of communicating our messages and news via Twitter and
Face Book – although alien to some members, these two communication
methods really compliment our web site (www.ivvcc.ie) and well
worth having a look at, so don’t delay and look up the IVVCC on
these sites.
Web Site:
Our webmaster John Larkin is really playing a
blinder as far as development of our site is concerned and it is
updated almost daily – if you haven’t been on line recently, log in
and have a look as it now has lots of new material, affiliate club
news page, photos and video links. Also recently launched is a members' forum where even the
most technical of questions will find a reply - And all this on top
of our wonderful quarterly IVVCC Journal!
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IVVCC
Club News – July 2011 by John
Boland
Great Events: The IVVCC held its premium event at
the start of June – The Gordon Bennett rally which took place over
three days of wonderful motoring - This year’s rally departed from
its traditional figure of eight course around Athy, Portlaoise and
Stradbally to follow a new route. This consisted of a drive down the
historic Barrow Towpath with its beautiful scenery which was like a
saunter back into a time when these cars travelled many similar
routes on a daily basis and what a success it proved to be! The feed
back from entrants was amazing with one UK guest guaranteeing that
he would be back next year with a posse of 6 friends and their cars.
Member Numbers Grow: Since the Gordon Bennett rally
membership numbers in the club have risen with the signing up of 54
new members including Stewart Skilbeck, President of the Veteran Car
Club of Great Britain – Stewart has been a long time competitor on
the Gordon Bennett and is a welcome addition to our growing ranks of
overseas supporters. Also to join are our three youngest members –
Mark and John Kavanagh and Kevin Boland – all three being third
generation members with Kevin’s grandfather being a founder member
and past President. The lads are a welcome addition and the Club is
delighted to see that we are attracting young members as they are
the future of historic motoring in Ireland
IVVCC President wins literary award: At the lunch after
the fantastic Pioneer Run there was a special presentation made from
the RIAC - The Reynolds Trophy - this is awarded by the development
committee of the RIAC Archive to the person or persons they feel has
made a significant contribution to the recording of Irish Motoring
and Motorsport history. This year the prize was awarded to Tom
Farrell who has worked tirelessly to develop the IVVCC Journal into
a wonderful archive of our club.
Affiliate Club Meeting: Classic Car Live in Mondello
was the scene of our affiliate club meeting where Shane Houlihan was
introduced as our new affiliated club’s secretary and he spoke of
some of the clubs plans for the future including a serious of visits
by IVVCC board members to local club meetings around the country to
see how the umbrella club can best serve everybody’s interests –
this was received very favourably by all present and these visits
will be starting in the Autumn – he also requested that affiliated
clubs should start to submit their dates for inclusion in the 2012
diary – please email: clubs@ivvcc.ie
20th Irish Classic and Vintage Motor Show:
Another wonderful day for everybody involved with this long running
and amazing show and club member Jim Boland had the honour of
collecting Dublin’s Lord Mayor Andrew Montague from the Mansion
house and transporting him to Terenure in his magnificent 1913 Rolls
Royce Silver Ghost – The Club stand had a turn out of 84 cars with a
massive diversity ranging from an 1898 Sperry electric car, through
a 1904 Speedwell, 1920 Rolls Royce Silver Ghost, 1925 Vauxhall
14/40, 1928 Bentley six and a half litre, last years winner of ‘Best
Car In Show’ a 1929 Desoto, 1937 Austin Ascot, 1953 Somerset, 1970
Jaguar E Type,1970 Morris Traveller and VW Beetle, a rare beast on
these shores a 1971 Holden GTS Monaro and all the way up to a 1980
Fiat 131 Mirafiori – a example of how the club caters for all ages
from the dawn of motoring all the way up to the 1980’s. Tommy
Sheridan’s little 1904 Speedwell took home the overall award for
best car in its class and the club used the show to start the roll
out of it’s new line of club wear including Baseball Caps, Beanies,
Jackets and coats– a range that will be growing in the next few
months and well worth checking out. A very welcome visitor to the
stand was Paddy Cole who dropped by to say hello and wish the club
well – last seen leaving the stand sporting an IVVCC Baseball cap!
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June 2011 news
by John Boland
Irish Veteran and Vintage Car Club Working Towards
The Future!
The Irish Veteran and Vintage Car Club have announced some
changes to personnel within the club with two changes of office and
three new members elected to the board.
Tom Farrell has just become the clubs 18th president - a long
time enthusiast and well know figure at car shows throughout Europe,
whose interest can not be confined to one era of motoring history
but has a love of all motor cars. He has developed the clubs’
members journal into a truly wonderful showpiece with coverage of
events, information and news of interest to all car enthusiasts. Tom
is an enthusiastic person who leads from the front, has great vision
and looks forward to developing the club into the future. Devoting
endless hours and many late nights to the IVVCC, he truly is an
inspiration to his team.
Jean Morton is the new membership secretary and will be helping
the club grow – looking after the interests of members in a growing
club is no easy task but Jean has the commitment and passion to do
so, a quality she proved by qualifying as Irelands first lady
helicopter licence holder. Jean is a keen supporter of the IVVCC’s
very popular active retired members group going on several outings
throughout the year. She has also had a lot of motoring experience
since the sixties in a number of Reilly’s, Bull Nose Morris, Model T
and as recently as last year went on the clubs French run with her
husband in their ’73 Jaguar E Type .
The clubs board has changed with two retirees – Marie Jones and
Laurence Roe – both of whom have worked tirelessly for the club
which thanks them for all their hard work and wishes them well for
the future. Three new appointments have been made and they are:
Paul Noctor who has been involved with the club for 28 years and
is at home whether driving his 1929 Chevy Roadster or restoring his
1955 TR3. This only gives a small insight into his passion for all
age of cars. He will continue to work hard on the events
committee which is made up of a group of dedicated motor enthusiasts
who are looking forward to the many upcoming events including the
Terenure show where the club won the best stand award last year.
The last two appointments are close friends for over 30 years and
have competed together in events such as the 2010 Mille Miglia in a
1932 Alfa Romeo 8C and the world famous London to Brighton run. Both
come on board with a true passion to progress the club.
Shane Houlihan from Dungarvan, Co. Waterford, a well know figure
in motoring circles has become the Affiliated Clubs secretary who
plans to work closely with all clubs in order to develop cooperation
and participation in events nationwide. Shane is a great ambassador
and has flown the IVVCC club flag on events as far away as New
Zealand and Argentina – not to mention countless Irish rallies. He
is a true enthusiast and is at home discussing cars from the very
dawn of motoring up to the most modern available.
John Boland has been appointed PRO for the club and his aim is to
raise the profile of the club by communicating the amount of work
that goes on behind the scenes. John has brass in his blood insofar
as his love is for early motoring and is well known around the
country for his participation on rallies in his 1902 Renault. This
said, he has a broad interest in cars mainly because of the fact
that was reared in the company of first generation IVVCC members –
his father, Jim being a founder of the club. Although, just finding
his footing, he would be delighted to receive feed back on all
aspects of the club and if any help is needed in the PR area he is
more than willing to assist.
These new appointments compliment the hard working members who
continue to progress the club and it looks like there will be
exciting times ahead with the IVVCC’s Silver Jubilee and the honour
of hosting the FIVA world rally which will travel through a large
portion of the country – both taking place in 2013.
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A personal note from
the webmaster, John Larkin.
The views expressed here are John
Larkin's and are not those of the
IVVCC.
This item added 14:23 15th December
2010.
The Irish Times of December 3rd
2010 carried an article with the
headline: "Minister plans
to end 'off-road' tax exemption"
The first few sentences of that
article were: "Motorists who avail of the “off
the road” exemption when taxing their vehicles are
costing the State up to €75 million per year,
according to Minister for Transport Noel Dempsey.
Mr
Dempsey plans to end the exemption in a move which
will compel all registered
owners
to tax their vehicles, whether they are in use or
not. “The new system means if you have
a car, it has to be taxed,” Mr Dempsey said."
Any person with even a smidgen of
integrity would agree that tax evaders should be
caught, but it should not result in a penalty being
imposed on law-abiding car owners whose cars are
genuinely off-road for restoration or winter
storage. The Gardaí have
adequate powers --- long established at that --- to
deal with dishonest evaders of road tax.
However, what
intrigued me was that the Minister for Transport
seemed to be acting outside the powers given to him
by the Oireachtas. I wrote to him on this
point and he has confirmed in a letter to me dated
14th December 2010 that the Minister for Transport
has no legal authority to introduce such
legislation.
Embarrassing, isn't
it?
The Minister should
have spoken to Sir Humphrey first.
Update 30 December 2010:-
Mr John Gormley, Minister for the Environment,
Heritage and Local Government, has written to me
confirming that he is the minister responsible for
motor taxation policy. He is setting up an
implementation group to deal with the problem of
motor tax evasion (€74
million per annum) and he is to be commended for
this. In his letter he states "...that it
remains a basic tenet of motor tax law that a
vehicle is only liable for motor tax if it is used
on a public road." We need to be vigilant that
we do not find ourselves with invidious legislation
that penalises honest motorists.
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The freedom to use old vehicles on
the road is the most valuable asset that the historic vehicle
movement has. Please respect the law and always have in-date
tax and insurance discs displayed, and only use your car on the road
if you are sure that it is safe to drive.
ROAD TRAFFIC (NATIONAL CAR TEST)
REGULATIONS 2009 (SI 567, 2009)
The Minister for Transport
legislated that from the 4th of January 2010 privately taxed
vehicles first registered prior to the 1st of January 1980 shall
remain exempt from the NCT. Vehicles first registered after
the 1st of January 1980 shall not benefit from NCT exemption and
shall continue to be included in the class of vehicles required to
undergo the NCT --- in other words the rolling thirty year exemption
no longer applies (refer to paragraphs 3(2)(b)(i) and 5(a) of SI 567, 2009).
The NCT will be required annually from the 1st of June 2011
for vehicles over ten years old. Vehicles first registered
prior to the 1st of January 1980 and which are taxed and licensed
for use as public service vehicles (wedding cars, taxis, buses,
etc,) shall continue to be required to have a valid NCT or DoE Test
(as applicable to the category of vehicle). This piece of
legislation has not altered the rule concerning road tax and so the
VinVet category of taxation continues to be available on a thirty
year rolling basis under present legislation. You can download the
legislation by clicking on either button below --- one gives a
zipped file (about 400kB). The other button gives a .pdf file
that is large (14MB), and will take a long time to download unless
you have broadband.

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Note amended
08 July 2011: Webmaster's comments: My
everyday car has shown an overall increase of 3%
in fuel consumption since E5 petrol (4.16% ethanol
added) became the only type available in Ireland.
I have calculated that the CO2 emitted by my car has
increased by 1.4% overall. I burn 1.2% less
petrol per mile but I am now burning an extra 4.166% ethanol
that was not previously part of the fuel. I am
becoming very sceptical about the environmental
benefits of ethanol.
Carbon dioxide
emissions -- some facts...
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One
cow belching and farting produces as much global
warming effect as twenty four historic cars do in a
year, or a Ford Mondeo 2L petrol over 26,651 km, or
a Rolls Royce Phantom over 13,369 km.
One
historic car = 210 kg/year of CO2. One
cow: 213B kg
methane/year = 5037C
kg of CO2 /year (the equivalent of two
month’s heating for an average house)
(updated 20 January 2010)
There are
6,700,000A
cattle in Ireland. They produce up to 500B
litres of methane per day per animal --- that’s
1,467,300 tonnes of methane per year. Methane has a
global warming effect 23C
times greater than carbon dioxide, so
the CO2 equivalent to this amount of
methane is 33,747,900 tonnes. A Rolls Royce Phantom
produces 377 g/km of CO2, so for an
average of 16,000 km driving per annum this comes to
6.03 tonnes. If all owners of private motor vehicles
--- a total of 1,963,690D
cars and motorcycles ---- each drove a
leviathan of a car such as a Rolls Royce Phantom
(377E
g/km CO2) then we would produce 11,844,978 tonnes of
CO2 per year. That is just over a THIRD
of the global warming effect of the belching and
farting of the nation’s cattle. One
cow = 13,369 km in a RR Phantom OR 26,651 km in a
Ford Mondeo 2L petrol (189E
g/km of CO2)
Sources:-
A:
CSO;
B:
Journal of Animal Science, 1995, Aug, 73(8):248393,
KA Johnson, DE Johnson, Washington State
University.
C:
Irish Times Motoring Supplement 4th November 2009,
referencing Walsh et al (University of Limerick),
Climate Care, carbonica.org
D:
2008 DoE Bulletin
E:
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Take a
look at the table below --- it shows that cars are not as polluting
as some groups like to have us think. For example, an average
person emits 2190 kg of CO2 per annum. A Ford Focus
emits this amount over a
distance of 14000 kilometres. Furthermore, the
Ford Focus could drive 32,000 kilometres (about two years driving) before
it equalled the
methane produced by one cow in a year.
Note the emissions of the Luas --- an electric propulsion system.
Electric propulsion is not as clean as many imagine it to be.
Let's try to keep a fair view of emissions. We must not accept the
demonizing of transport, and we must resist the targeting of private
cars in particular. Note the carbon dioxide emitted by air
transport---it emits four to seven times more CO2 per
passenger kilometre than driving.
Let’s get our priorities right --- this how the world’s fossil fuels
are used:-
Industry: 32%
Residential: 27% All transport:
25% Commercial &
public services: 8% Agriculture: 3%
Other: 5%
(Source: IEA,
http://earthtrends.wri.org/datatables/index.php?theme=6)
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Comparison of CO2
emission of different forms of transport all filled to
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CO2
grams per kilometre per individual |
Kilograms per individual per annum based on 10500 km
travelled |
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Cyclist (One person) |
5 |
53 |
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Dart (945 people) |
11 |
116 |
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Intercity bus (57 people) |
15 |
158 |
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Dublin city bus (90 people) |
16 |
168 |
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Toyota Prius (4 people) |
26 |
273 |
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Ford Focus (4 people) |
39 |
413 |
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Range Rover 3.0 litre diesel (4 people) |
59 |
620 |
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Luas (235 people) |
64 |
683 |
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Scooter (one person) |
81 |
850 |
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Rolls Royce Phantom (4 people) |
94 |
990 |
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Motorbike less than 500cc (One person) |
104 |
1090 |
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Motorbike more than 500cc (One person) |
150 |
1570 |
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Medium haul flight (full) |
250 |
2636 |
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Long haul flight (full) |
270 |
2835 |
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Short haul flight (full) |
400 |
4200 |
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Average meat-eating human CO2
equivalent emission (Source: EPA) |
2190 |
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equivalent of methane (breaking wind) --- 23 times worse
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Cow |
2760 |
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Sheep |
184 |
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Pig |
35 |
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Human |
3 |
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Sources: Irish Times Motoring Supplement 4th November 2009,
referencing Walsh et al (University of Limerick), Climate
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ANTIFREEZE WARNING!
Please be aware of the risks associated with antifreeze --- over
the last few years manufacturers have changed from inorganic
additive technology (IAT) to organic acid technology (OAT).
DO NOT use OAT antifreeze
in old engines, as it corrodes aluminium
and damages gaskets and seals.
Always use IAT
antifreeze that has been labelled as
suitable for classic cars. Ideally
the antifreeze should comply with BS 3150 Type A.
(Modified 25 May 2011.)
Derek Harris in
the UK (www.derekharris.com)
has researched this matter and has very kindly given the IVVCC
permission to reproduce an article that he has written on this
subject. The article is excellent, and I strongly advise you
to read it. You can find the article here:

Propylene glycol
antifreeze, which is safe for our cars AND for the environment AND
which has far fewer health hazards associated with it will be
available in the Spring of 2010. If you are interested in
purchasing some in bulk you can learn more at this link:
www.classiccoolant.com
(NOTE: The IVVCC is not endorsing the products you find on this
link.) (Started 6th
January 2010)
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Our historic cars have a tiny carbon footprint
At the close of 2007 there were 255 million modern cars, and 1.5
million historic cars in the EU. The modern cars emit 1.15
billion tonnes of CO2 per annum in being
manufactured, driven and serviced ---- an average of 4.5
tonnes/annum of CO2 per car (70588 MJ/annum per
car). The historic cars emit 322,000 tonnes of CO2
per annum --- 0.21 tonnes of CO2/annum per car (3333
MJ/annum per car). Overall within the EU, the fleet of modern
cars emits 3570 times more CO2 than the fleet of
historic cars. Car for car the CO2 emission of an
average modern car is twenty one times greater than for an
average historic car (4.5 tonnes CO2 versus 0.21
tonnes CO2).
Basis of
calculations:- 255 million modern cars:
average :- 16,000 km/annum at 10L/100 km (23 kg/100km (3680
kg/annum) of CO2), plus 0.3MJ/km (19 grams/km of CO2)
for servicing, plus 70,000 MJ (4.5 tonnes of CO2) to
manufacture, changed for new car every seven years.
1.5 million historic cars: average:- 933 km/annum at 9L/100 km
(20.7kg/100 km (193kg/annum) of CO2), plus 0.3 MJ/km
(19 grams/km (17.7 kg/annum) of CO2) for servicing.
Petrol 0.737 specific gravity and 36MJ/L, 2.3 kg CO2/L
(diesel: 2.6 kg CO2/L). The figure
of 3333 MJ/annum for historic cars comprises 280 MJ for
servicing and 3053 MJ for annual fuel. 1 MJ (petrol)
= 64 grams of CO2. 1 Litre of petrol = 2300 grams
of CO2.
(16 Nov 2009)
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Irish car prices in 1964
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Want
to date a pre-1987 Irish registration number?
Contact John Larkin
at
jflarkin@eircom.net with queries or comments.
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Thanks to
Tony Cooney for providing a link to this nostalgic piece
of motoring history. It's well worth a look...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JE82FZpq0qM
(16 Nov 2009)
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Click on the button to download a
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Ireland's oldest
taxed road-legal car
1899 Sperry Cleveland,
registered NI 3
Reg Plunkett atop his 1899
Sperry Cleveland electric car. We recently invited submissions
to this website nominating Irelands's oldest taxed road-legal car
--- and this car is clearly the winner! Thank you to Damien Eagers
Photography (Celbridge) for providing the photograph.

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Click on the button below to
download a copy of the 2006/2007 FIVA/FIA report on the legislative
controls placed on historic cars in Europe and also in Australia,
Brazil, Hong Kong and Japan. Ireland's legislative
environment for historic cars is one of the developed world's most
sympathetic and accommodating. This is due mainly to the work
of the IVVCC. We in the IVVCC are always vigilant for
potentially restrictive legislation, and we lobby Government where
necessary to protect our pastime. We greatly appreciate the
support of our members and of our affiliated clubs, and we hope that
this support will increase if necessary in line with the increasing
amount of legislation coming from Brussels. Our affiliation to
FIVA is vital, and our support for their sterling work in Brussels
is essential to ensure that the fairest possible environment is
achieved for our historic cars.
John
Larkin.

The IVVCC is grateful to the FIVA for making this
document available, and also to the esteemed author Dr. Winfried
Kallinger
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02 July 2009
NEWS: FIVA has decided to adopt a thirty year minimum age for
the definition of an historic car from January 1st 2010. The
IVVCC has decided to adopt this in a modified form to avoid
exclusion of owners of cars that are currently over twenty five
years old but not yet thirty. The IVVCC has adopted a cut-off
date of 31st December 1984 which will remain in place until 31st
December 2014, after which the thirty year rule will apply on a
rolling basis (or whatever later rule supersedes it, if any).
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PAINT FOR
HISTORIC CARS
The following
information has been transcribed from the Official Journal of
the European Union dated 30th April 2004, pages L 143/88 and
89 as a public information service to all old car enthusiasts:-
DIRECTIVE 2004/42/CE OF THE EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT
AND OF THE COUNCIL of 21 April 2004 on the limitation of
emissions of volatile organic compounds due to the use of
organic solvents in certain paints and varnishes and vehicle
refinishing products and amending Directive 1999/13/EC.
Recital (11): Member States
should be able to grant individual licences for the sale and
purchase for specific purposes of products in strictly limited
quantities which do not comply with the solvent limit values
established by this Directive.
and
Article 3.3:
For the purposes of restoration and maintenance
of buildings and vintage vehicles designated by competent
authorities as being of particular historical and cultural
value, Member States may grant individual licences for the sale
and purchase in strictly limited quantities of products which do
not meet the VOC limit values laid down in Annex II.
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In late 2006 FIVA
published a Guide for Users of Historic Vehicles as a contribution
to the European Commission's Road Safety Charter. By following
the spirit of these guidelines, drivers of historic vehicles will be
welcomed as considerate motorists on the busy roads of Europe that
we all share. Click on the link at the left to download a copy
of the guide in .pdf format. The file is large and may
take some time to download if you do not have a high-speed
internet connection. The IVVCC supports the work
done by FIVA and appreciates their permission to provide this download
on our website.
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February
2007
Does anybody know if this problem applies in Europe?
This is a long article but it is well worth reading. The
implications are worrying.
OIL IS KILLING OUR
CARS!!!!!
By: Keith Ansell,
Foreign Parts Positively, Inc. (Thanks to
Keith for permission to reproduce this article.)
About a year ago I read
about the reduction of zinc dialkyl dithiophosphate (ZDDP) in
the oils supplied with API approval that could affect sliding
and high pressure (EP) friction in our cars. The reduction of
these chemicals in supplied oils was based on the fact that
phosphates reduce the effectiveness and eventually damage
catalytic converters and introduce minute amounts of pollutants
into our atmosphere.
A couple of months ago I
had a member of the Columbia Gorge MG Club bring a totally
failed camshaft and lifters back to me that had only 900 miles
on them!! I immediately contacted the camshaft re-grinder (Delta
Cam) and asked how this could happen. They were well aware of
this problem as they were starting to have many failures of this
type. In the past, the lack of a molybdenum disulfide camshaft
assembly lubricant, at assembly, was about the only thing that
could create this type of problem. My customer has assembled
many engines and had lubricated the camshaft properly. Then the
bad news came out: It’s today’s “modern” API (American Petroleum
Industry) approved oils that are killing our engines: Meaning
all flat tappet (cam follower) equipped engines, as used in all
BMC products, all British Leyland products, most pushrod engines
prior to 1980, early Volvos, American high-performance engines
and many others.
Next call: To a major
camshaft supplier, both stock and performance (Crane). They now
have an additive for whatever oil you are using during break-in
so that the camshaft and lifters won’t fail in an unreasonably
short period of time. They also suggest using a diesel rated oil
on flat tappet engines.
Next call: To a racing
oil manufacturer that we use for the race cars (Red Line Oil).
Their response: “We are well aware of the problem and we still
use the correct amounts of those additives in our products”.
They continued to tell me they are not producing API approved
oils so they don’t have to test and comply. Their oils were NOT
the “new, improved and approved” ones that destroy flat tappet
engines! “We just build the best lubricants possible”. Sounds
stupid, doesn’t it, New-Approved but inferior products, but it
seems to be true for our cars.
To top this off: Our
representative from a major supplier of performance and street
engine parts (EPWI) stopped by to “warn us” of the problem of
the NEW oils on flat tappet engines. This was a call that the
representative was making only because of this problem to warn
their engine builders! “The reduction of the zinc, manganese and
phosphates are causing very early destruction of cams and
followers”. They are recommending that, for now at least, there
must be a proper oil additive put in the first oil used on new
engines, beyond the liberal use of molydisulfide assembly lube.
They have been told that the first oil needs the additive but
remain skeptical that the first oil is all that is necessary.
Their suggestion: Use diesel rated oils such as Delo or Rotella
that are usually available at auto stores and gas stations.
This problem is BIG!
American Engine Rebuilder's Association (AERA) Bulletin #TB2333
directly addresses this problem. I had a short discussion with
their engineer and he agreed with all that I had been finding.
Next phone call was to a
retired engineer from Clevite, a major bearing and component
manufacturer. First surprise was that he restored older British
Motor bikes. The second surprise was that he was “VERY” aware of
this problem because many of the old bikes had rectangular
tappets that couldn’t rotate and are having a very large problem
with the new oils. He has written an article for the British
Bike community that verify all the “bad news” we have been
finding.
Comp Cams put out “#225
Tech Bulletin: Flat Tappet Camshafts”. They have both an
assembly lube and an oil additive. The telling sentence in the
bulletin was “While this additive was originally developed
specifically for break-in protection, subsequent testing has
proven the durability benefits of its long term use. This
special blend of additives promotes proper break-in and protects
against premature cam and lifter failure by replacing some of
the beneficial ingredients that the oil companies have been
required to remove from the “off-the–shelf oil”.
Next question: Now what
do we do?
From the camshaft
re-grinders (DeltaCam) “Use oils rated for diesel use”, Delo
(Standard Oil product) was named. About the same price as other
quality petroleum based oils. They have the ZDDP we need in
weights we are familiar with.
From one camshaft
manufacturer (Crane): “use our additive” for the first 500
miles.
From General Motors
(Chevrolet): add EOS, their oil fortifier, to your oil, it’s
only an 8-ounce can (This problem seems to be something GM has
known about for some time!). The additive says for break-in
only, some dealers add it to every oil change.
From Redline Oil: Use
our street formulated synthetics. They have what we need! Early
in 2007 they will be supplying a “break-in oil” specifically for
our cars.
From Castrol: We are
beginning to see a pattern emerging on older cars. It may be
advantageous to use a non-approved lubricant, such as oils that
are Diesel rated, 4 Cycle Motorcycle oils and other specified
diesel oils. They will be supplying “new oils” specifically for
our cars in early 2007.
For you science buffs:
ZDDP is a single polar molecule that is attracted to Iron based
metals. The one polar end tends to “Stand” the molecule up on
the metal surface that it is bonded to by heat and friction.
This forms a sacrificial layer to protect the base metals of the
cam and tappet from contacting each other. Only at very high
pressures on a flat tappet cam is this necessary because the oil
is squeezed/wiped from the surface. This high pressure is also
present on the gudgeon pin (wrist pin) in diesel engines,
therefore the need for ZDDP in all diesel engines.
Second part of the
equation is Molybdenum disulfide (Moly). The moly bonds to the
zinc adding an additional, very slippery, sacrificial layer to
the metal. I found out that too much of the moly will create
problems; lack of this material reduces the effectiveness of the
ZDDP. The percentage, by weight is from .01 to .02%, not much,
but necessary according to the chemists.
Now there is no denying
that there is a problem, lack of ZDDP (Zinc Dialkyl
DithioPhosphate) in modern oils kills at least our cams and
tappets. There seems to be no known alternative.
Our cars are a small
percentage of the total market and BIG Corporate, the American
Petroleum Institute and possibly government have made decisions
that are detrimental to our cars. This problem isn’t going away.
The trend today is to lighter weight oils to decrease drag,
which increases mileage. Most of these seem to be the “Energy
Conservation” oils that we cannot use.
Redline oil and others
are suggesting a 3,000-mile break-in for new engines! Proper
seating of rings with today’s lubricants is taking that long to
properly seal. Shifting to synthetics before that time will
just burn a lot of oil and not run as well as hoped.
The “Energy
Conservation“ trend was first led by automakers to increase
mileage numbers and secondly because the ZDDP and other
chemicals degrade the catalytic converter after extended miles,
increasing pollution. Most of us don’t have catalytic converters
and the mileage gains are not that significant.
Many oil companies may
have products that will continue to function well in our cars.
Castrol, Redline, Valvoline, Mobil, Shell, Amsoil and others
have now commented on my original article and are making
suggestions. Some companies are offering short lists of
“acceptable” oils, others just one. One company has responded
without any substantive information in a two-page “bulletin”. By
their account all their oils are superior and applicable. This
is typical of many companies.
Some oil manufacturers
are pointing to metallurgy, blaming poorly built cams and
followers. This may have some validity but the bottom line is
that there has been a big increase in failures with products
that have been on the market for many years but are now having
greatly increased failures. To me the bottom line is, if the
lubricants are working there is no contact between surfaces, it
shouldn’t matter what the materials used in the products are,
within reason.
On “modern” production
cars, stay with the manufacturers’ suggestions. For any car
produced before about 1990 the owner needs to be aware that the
factory suggested lubricant may have changed and may not be
applicable. Flat tappet, stock, performance or modified may be
affected. MGBs from 1975 to 1980 must choose to sacrifice the
cam or the catalytic converter as an example of how difficult
the decisions are becoming!
Yes, there is more!
Castrol does understand our dilemma and is actively looking into
what it can do to support our cars. We can soon expect to see
products from them with specific application to classic cars.
Red Line will be offering a “break-in” oil soon after the first
of the year. Shell’s Rotella will be good until about June or
July of 2007 with possibly nothing after that date. Delo
(Chevron) will also be questionable after the new “CJ-4”
standards come in the middle of 2007.
Now the important
information: Oils that may be correct for our cars today:
(As reported by
manufacturers by 31st December 2006, NOTE: many have
changed their recommendations over the last three months!
Castrol: Syntec 5W-40,
Syntec 20W-50, Grand Prix 4-Stroke Motorcycle oil in 10W-40 and
20W-50, TWS Motorsport 10W-60*, BMW Long Life 5W-30*
*= full synthetic, available only at BMW dealerships
Red Line: 10W-30, 10W-40
(Synthetic oils)
Valvoline: VR-1 20W-50
(Conventional oil)
Amsoil: 20W-50(TRO),
10W-40(AMO), 15W-40(AME) & 20W-50(ARO)
Mobil: Mobil 1 5W-30 and
20W-50 (Synthetic)
Chevron: Delo 400
Shell: Rotella
What we are doing at
Foreign Parts Positively has been difficult to determine but
with few options left, the following is what we are forced to
do. Some of our choices have been based on the manufacturer’s
willingness to help and specific reports. This list will change
in the next months with Castrol and Red Line adding products
just for our cars.
Break in:
Delo 400 30W (A break-in oil will be available from Redline
soon!)
Conventional oil:
Valvoline VR-1 20W-50
Synthetic: Red Line 10W-30 in newer engines,
10W-40 on older engines.
Break-in is
now 3,000 miles (using Delo 400 30W) before changing to running
oil.
Oil change
interval: 1 year or 18,000 miles with Red Line synthetic
1 year or 2,500
miles with conventional oil (Valvoline VR-1
20W-50).
Thank you to Castrol,
Redline, Christiansen Oil, Valvoline, Mobil, Shell, Standard Oil
and Amsoil for input. We’re sure this subject will continue:
Please forward any new information on this subject you may
encounter.
We have received some
very interesting material from “Mr Moly” that may be putting
molybdenum disulfide (MoS) into this discussion. It seems that
ZDDP plus MoS is the best from the oil companies’ opinion but
MoS by itself may be beneficial. Some racers swear by it. The
literature seems to support “Mr. Moly’s” position.
Update 20th
February 2007: In North America Castrol will have a "Classic"
20w-50 Syntec on the market in April for us. Meantime Red Line
Oil for synthetic and Valvoline VP-1 20w-50 for conventional
seems our only choices.
19th February 2007: In North America Castrol will have
a "Classic" 20w-50 Syntec on the market in April; meantime Red
Line Oil for synthetic and Valvoline VP-1 20w-50 for
conventional seem to be the only choices.
Keith M. Ansell, Foreign Parts
Positively, Inc.
www.ForeignPartsPositively.com
Kma4285@msn.com
360-882-3596
Castrol UK (Andy Griffin, Castrol Technical Support) said in am
email dated 21st February 2007:
We are currently looking at whether there is a need for a
specific formulation for the US market for their older
engines - in the UK we are fairly well covered by the
Classic grades ( and GTX High Mileage as a basic 15W-40
mineral ), and I have had no reports of problems here with
premature wear of older engines.
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February 2007
The following facts relating to
the old car movement in Ireland have been summarised by John
Larkin from the FIVA report courtesy of Peadar Ward:-
Almost
€21 million was
spent by Irish club members in 2005. (As club
members account for 52% of all historic cars it is clear that
the value of expenditure is probably twice that captured by the
FIVA survey. John Larkin.)
€14
million of this figure was on private sales of historic cars.
Irish historic
vehicle clubs spent
€50,000
on the printing and distribution of club publications, with a
further
€230,000 on other expenditure.
There are almost 6000
historic vehicles owned by club members resident in Ireland, of which about 5300 are
roadworthy and legal. A further 6300 historic vehicles are
owned by enthusiasts who are not members of clubs, resulting in
11620 historic vehicles that are roadworthy and legal
(Irish Bulletin of Vehicle and Driver Statistics
2005 published by DoE). At the 31st of December 2005
there were 2,138,700 road vehicles registered in Ireland, of
which 0.54% were historic vehicles. Modern vehicles travelled
40,000,000,000 kilometres, and historic vehicles
travelled 16,000,000 kilometres or 0.04% of the total.
Irish clubs raised over
€250,000 for charities
in 2005.
88% of historic vehicles
are used less than three times per week, and 78% travelled no
more than 2000 km in 2005.
27% of
owners of historical vehicles have an income not exceeding
€30,000 per annum, and 80% of historic cars are worth less than
€15,000 each. This clearly shows that preserving and
running an old car is not the preserve of the affluent but that
it is an inclusive hobby that transcends social boundaries.
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Here are
some of the facts elicited by the FIVA survey; these
figures apply to the EU:-
The historic
vehicle movement generates an annual turnover of
€16
billion. This clearly shows its
economic importance.
37,500 people are employed
full-time in industries serving our hobby. A further
17,500 work part-time.
There are
1,500,000 roadworthy historic
vehicles, and a further 500,000 in storage or under restoration.
Club
membership totals 786,000.
Club members
spent 2.6 million nights
away from home attending events.
There are
265,000 historic vehicle
events per year.
55% of club
members are under 45 years of age; 20% are 45-55; and the
balance are over 55.
Historic
vehicle magazines have an annual circulation of
20 million.
There are
255,000,000 modern vehicles registered in the EU, and they
travel 2,200,000,000,000 km per year. The total distance
travelled by 1,500,000 historic vehicles (0.6% of all registered
vehicles) is 1,400,000,000 km, or just under
0.07% of the distance travelled by
modern cars.
By working in
conjunction with the EU, FIVA’s work has resulted in some clear
recognition for the historic vehicle movement, and not always in
respect of road usage. Recent examples include:
•
Acknowledgement
by the European Commission that historic vehicles need to be
exempted from any future laws requiring the general use of
daytime running lights as continuous use of lights would be
impossible for many historic vehicles.
•
A derogation in
the Directive imposing a general ban on paints high in Volatile
Organic Compounds to allow the continued sale of small volumes
of correct paints to ensure visual authenticity of vehicles even
after repair and re-spraying.
•
Recognition by
the European Commission that enforced retrofitting of blind-spot
mirrors to historic buses and trucks would impair the
authenticity of preserved historic commercial vehicles.
Across Europe there are
hundreds of thousands of individual enthusiasts who benefit from
FIVA’s work, thousands of people working in businesses that
depend upon historic vehicles remaining in use, and millions of
members of the general public would be the poorer if they were
deprived of the pleasure of seeing historic vehicles being
driven on the road or at events and shows.
The motor vehicle has
become an integral part of European culture. We have a
responsibility to protect all aspects of our heritage, and in
this case that means ensuring the future of the historic vehicle
movement by preserving the right to use old vehicles on the
roads of Europe.
The IVVCC appreciates the work
done by FIVA in carrying out this survey, and is grateful for
their permission to quote from their report.
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The Denis Lucey cars achieved the
following prices at auction at
Bonhams on the 30th of April 2007
1902 Wolseley 10hp
Twin-Cylinder Rear-Entrance Tonneau, sold for £145,000
1905 Germain 5.7 litre, 32.2hp Royal Tonneau,
sold for £145,000
1909 Silver Stream 18/24hp 3.1
litre Roi-de-Belges Tourer, sold for £130,000
1900 Argyll 5hp Spindle Seat
Rear Entrance Tonneau, sold for
£102,000
The Gore-Booth 1910 Wolseley-Siddeley 16/20hp Rotonde
Phaeton, sold for £34,000
1909 Wolseley-Siddeley 14hp Four Seat Tourer, sold for
£24,000
1910 Wolseley-Siddeley 16/20hp Tourer, sold for
£14,000
1923 Ford Model T Four Seat Tourer,
sold for £12,000
1910 Wolseley-Siddeley 16/20hp
Two Seater, sold for £5,500
Bonhams' premium and taxes are
not included in the hammer prices above.
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